[OpenSPIM] OpenSPIM in 64bit system?

[Ke Li]

Hi Luke,

Thanks so much! After I install the 32bit JRE, there is no more error and I
can launch the uManager studio and do the acquisition normally.

Kieran, thanks for your patient reply all the same!

Best,
Ke

Ke Li
Research Assistant
Biomedical Engineering
Johns Hopkins University
Phone: 410-934-9802
Email: kli26 at jhu.edu


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Luke Stuyvenberg <stuyvenberg at wisc.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Kieran and Ke,
>
> I just tested a fresh, completely up-to-date installation of OpenSPIM
> (*only* OpenSPIM-20140207.zip) on a 64-bit computer. On my machine, the
> software had the error Ke refers to: "Failed to load the MMCoreJ_wrap
> native library." The problem seems to happen when OpenSPIM uses a 64-bit
> JRE to load a 32-bit DLL. Please make sure you install a 32-bit JRE from
> http://www.java.com .
>
>
> If you already have a 32-bit JRE installed on your computer, either of
> these additional steps should help:
>
>
> This solution may change how other Java applications run:
> - Click Start -> Right click "My Computer" -> Properties.
> - On the left, click "Advanced System Settings".
> - Click "Environment Variables...".
> - Under System Variables, click "New..."
> - In Variable name, enter "JAVA_HOME". In Variable value, put the full
> path to the 32-bit JRE (for example, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7").
>
>
> This solution may use some extra hard-drive space, but will only affect
> OpenSPIM:
> - Download and Extract OpenSPIM-20140207.zip. In OpenSPIM.app, make a new
> folder called "java".
> - Copy all files from the Java JRE directory (i.e. "C:\Program Files
> (x86)\Java\jre7") into this new folder.
>
>
> Now OpenSPIM will use the 32-bit JRE to run, which should resolve the
> problem.
>
>
> Please let me know if this helps!
> Luke
>
>
> On 07/08/14, Kieran Short  wrote:
> >
> > This is not what I did. Just use the openspim.org(http://openspim.org)
> distribution. It comes with *everything pre installed*. Dont do anything
> else, you shouldn't need to download the fiji installer. Just open the
> OpenSpim distribution in compatibility mode. Micromanager will be in the
> plugins waiting for you.
> >
> > Fwiw I haven't updated either. But if you download from the
> openspim.org(http://openspim.org) website it should be relatively fresh
> and up to date.
> >
> > Cheers Kieran
> > On 09/07/2014 8:04 AM, "Ke Li" <tianlankeke at gmail.com <
> tianlankeke at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > For base installation, you mean install the OpenSPIM/Fiji package here:
> http://openspim.org/Downloads again?
> > >
> > > I followed the troubleshooting instructions in the compatibility tab
> and the result is "its an incompatible application".
> > >
> > >
> > > I did the following steps to open the uManager studio:
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Download the Fiji package of the continuous release version for
> Windows 7(64bit) from : http://fiji.sc/Fiji
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Download the OpenSPIM package (OpenSPIM-20140207.zip) from :
> http://openspim.org/Downloads
> > >
> > >
> > > 3. Launch Fiji: in the Fiji.app/folder, open ImageJ-win64.exe
> > >
> > >
> > > 4. Update Fiji (and OpenSPIM and uManager): Help->Update Fiji
> > >
> > >
> > > 5. Run Micromanager Studio: In the OpenSPIM.app folder, open
> ImageJ-win32.exe, then plugins->Micro-manager->Micro-manager studio (Before
> this step, I have followed your steps and set the compatibility mode of the
> ImageJ-win32.exe as Windows XP (Service Pack 3))
> > >
> > >
> > > After Step 5, an error shows as follows:
> > > Error:Failed to load the MMCoreJ_wrap native library
> mmcorej.MMCoreJJNI.swig_module_init()V
> > >
> > >
> > > To solve this error, I copied the file MMCoreJ_wrap.dll in the mm
> folder of the OpenSPIM.app folder into the same directory of the
> ImageJ-win32.exe. Then when I reloaded the uManager studio from the ImageJ
> (32bit), the error was as follows:
> > > Error:Failed to load the MMcoreJ_wrap native library
> > >
> C:\Users\Kuolab\Downloads\SPIM\OpenSPIM-20140207\OpenSPIM.app\MMCoreJ_wrap.dll:
> Can't load IA 32-bit. dll on a AMD 64-bit platform.
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried to open the uManager studio from ImageJ-win32.exe and
> ImageJ-win64.exe, while the second error above happened all the time in the
> two cases.
> > >
> > > The camera driver has been installed correctly before based on the
> test image results.
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there any step I misconducted? (Maybe copying the MMCoreJ_warp.dll
> into the same directory of the ImageJ-win32.exe is not correct?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ke
> > >
> > >
> > > Ke LiResearch Assistant
> > > Biomedical Engineering
> > > Johns Hopkins University
> > > Phone: 410-934-9802(tel:410-934-9802)
> > > Email: kli26 at jhu.edu(javascript:main.compose()
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Kieran Short <kieran.short at gmail.com(javascript:main.compose()>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This is strange. I'm not sure what OpenSPIM fiji build we are
> running but it works here.
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried going back to a base installation?
> > > >
> > > > It sounds odd that uManager can even detect your pc as a "amd64"
> system as compatibility mode should mask that as 32bit.
> > > >
> > > > What says "its an incompatible application"?
> > > >
> > > > Of course, mm *should* be able to load a 32bit dll on 64bit
> architecture. I don't understand why that should be a problem for mm in
> the first place. The whole x86 instruction set is encapsulated within the
> x64 set. To Johannes/Mark is this directly related to the available jre?
> > > > On 09/07/2014 5:18 AM, "Ke Li" <tianlankeke at gmail.com(javascript:main.compose()>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Kieran,
> > > > >
> > > > > I followed your suggestion. While the problem still existed. When
> I tried to launch the uManager studio from the ImageJ(ImageJ-win32.exe) in
> the OpenSPIM.app folder, an error: Failed to load the MMCoreJ_wrap native
> library (Can't load IA 32-bit.dll on a AMD 64-bit platform) showed
> every time. I did the troubleshooting and the result showed that it's a
> incompatible application.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any other way to solve this problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ke
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ke LiResearch Assistant
> > > > > Biomedical Engineering
> > > > > Johns Hopkins University
> > > > > Phone: 410-934-9802(tel:410-934-9802)
> > > > > Email: kli26 at jhu.edu(javascript:main.compose()
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Ke Li <tianlankeke at gmail.com(javascript:main.compose()>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Kieran,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks so much for your solution. I'll try it tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Ke
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kieran Short <kieran.short at gmail.com
> (javascript:main.compose()>于2014年7月7日星期一写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Run it in compatibility mode.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To do this, do the following.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right click imagej/fiji.
> > > > > > > Select properties.
> > > > > > > Go to the Compatibility tab.
> > > > > > > Check the "run this program in compatibility mode for:" box.
> > > > > > > Select Windows XP (Service Pack 3).
> > > > > > > Click Apply.
> > > > > > > Click OK.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then try and run it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I can work out how to include plugins during compilation
> I will try to compile.a win64 version. At such q time i'd happily
> provide binaries. Im only a part time python progammer though and therefore
> have little experience with debugging compilation issues. Since
> Compatibility Mode 'just works' for us, it isn't a high
> priority for me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers Kieran
> > > > > > > On 08/07/2014 10:32 AM, "Ke Li" <tianlankeke at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Mark & Luke,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm writing to ask whether there is a solution for
> running the openSPIM software in the 64bit system? (The uManager studio
> can't be loaded normally in my 64 bit system) Can I get access to the
> source code for modification?
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> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Ke
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ke LiResearch Assistant
> > > > > > > > Biomedical Engineering
> > > > > > > > Johns Hopkins University
> > > > > > > > Phone: 410-934-9802(tel:410-934-9802)
> > > > > > > > Email: kli26 at jhu.edu
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> > > > > > Johns Hopkins University
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> > > > > > Email: kli26 at jhu.edu(javascript:main.compose()
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